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15 November 2013 @ 10:45 pm
In Which I Showcase How Tumblr Has Infected Me.  
Slightly Belated Happy Birthday to fragrantwoods!! I hope it was a good one, darling! Here is a link I keep meaning to give you for a low-carb recipe website that my sister has been using for us lately and it has some excellent stuff on there I thought you and Mr. Woods might enjoy. The Eggplant & Chicken Parmesan is amazing!

So, I actually had been contemplating making something for fragrantwoods’s birthday, but while pondering whether it should be a Mary McDonnell or Laura Roslin piece, I got distracted thinking about Laura Roslin in general - (as one does). Now, maybe it’s because I’ve been spending so much time on Tumblr where the standard battle-cry is “Strong Female Characters With Flaws!”, but I started to think about how rare a character like Laura Roslin really is. Not just as a female character, but as a woman character of age.


Think about it: The standard practice in Hollywood is that a woman over the age of forty is ‘the mother’ or the ‘the wife’. Laura was neither of those things. On top of that, they weren’t afraid to give her flaws. Laura was strong, but she had weaknesses. She was given a load of responsibility and she wasn’t always sure she was doing the right thing. She wasn’t sure which was the right decision and even when she made the decision, she wasn’t above doubting herself. But at the same time, she didn’t let other people push her around or manipulate her decisions. That’s not to say she didn’t respect counsel from certain people or listen to advice, but she knew these were her choices to make, her responsibility to carry, and she did so on strong shoulders. Even with the cancer, she carried it with grace, except when she didn’t, but that’s okay, because she’s human and Laura was a strong woman but she was also a human being and humans hurt.

I also think she had to have moments where her mind just reeled that this was even her life now. I mean, when she was in her what, early 20s, she was heading into being a teacher, educating the minds of young people…and then here she was the fucking President. Being the Secretary of Education probably occasionally blew her mind when she looked back on where she started - (as I imagine that kind of thing does with anyone in that situation) - but then to become President. Though, to be fair, she was also living on a spaceship in a Cylon induced apocalypse, so maybe the President thing didn’t phase her so much.

Anyways, I’ve read a lot of stuff lately about how a woman doesn’t have to run around shooting everyone and kicking their asses with karate chops to be a strong female character - (and that if she does run around karate kicking everyone, she should still be human, not some sort of ass-kicking robot…unless she IS an ass-kicking robot, then it’s cool). And then I thought of Laura Roslin and all of the sides she showed us and how not one of them made her less of a strong female character but, in fact, more of one.

In semi-related news, I recently watched ‘Alien’ and ‘Aliens’ for the first time. I’d seen most of ‘Aliens’ in bits and pieces but never in full - (I know, how is that possible?) - and I am in love with Ripley. Who’s surprised? I spent a great deal of the first movie worried about the damn cat, even though I knew how the goddamn thing ended! I think I liked ’Aliens’ better, in general, and I know how the third movie starts and it basically negates everything in ‘Aliens’, so I’m not going to watch it. My head-canon end is the end of Aliens, with all possible futures laid out before her, hopefully one that hooks her up with Hicks and gives Newt a nice normal life. Sadly, I think Jonesy will be dead by the time Ripley gets back to the station, but they’ll get another cat. Newt can name it Casey.
 
 
 
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on November 16th, 2013 04:36 am (UTC)
Is it bad of me that I just kind of want to tell all the people screaming for strong women with flaws that they've always been there? And maybe they've just been looking in the wrong places?
dodger_sister: girl powerdodger_sister on November 21st, 2013 12:26 am (UTC)
Is it bad of me that I just kind of want to tell all the people screaming for strong women with flaws that they've always been there? And maybe they've just been looking in the wrong places?

It's not bad at all, but it's probably good that you don't venture into the lands of Tumblr (though sometimes I see things on there and I wish you were there with me, so I could show you the thing that made me think of you) - but mostly it's good you're not on Tumblr because you'd be biting your lip bloody to keep quiet and sometimes they'll unleash the hyenas.

I think, more than anything, what they want is more LEAD female characters in movies 9action.genre/sci-fi etc). As much as Tumblr loves its Avengers male hotties (and it does) they also really, really want a Black Widow movie and a Wonder Woman movie and Hollywood to recognize more often that we can carry films too. At least, that's what I see the most of.
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on November 21st, 2013 12:43 am (UTC)
You're right, Tumblr would infuriate me. It's be like Facebook for triviality, but with the rabid fans as the ones saying all the things that make me wish wireless included reaching out and slapping people. :P

Wanting lead female characters is not quite the same thing as wanting strong female characters, though I would hope a lead female character would be BOTH!
dodger_sister: girl powerdodger_sister on November 21st, 2013 12:52 am (UTC)
It's be like Facebook for triviality,

LOL This made me laugh because I think Facebook is 'the Facebook for triviality'. (I irrationally hate Facebook btw).

I get what you mean about Tumblr though and I think that's a corner of it, it just happens to be a corner tat intersects far too much with the fandom side of Tumblr.
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on November 21st, 2013 01:05 am (UTC)
Of COURSE FB is trivial - that's why I hate it, too; I only started up with FB because I was home six weeks from that stupid surgery and needed something to convince me that the world outside of my bedroom still existed!
Shireboundshirebound on November 16th, 2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
I loved that they had a cat with them. When I saw "Alien" originally in the theater, the ending (with the creature slowly unfolding itself aboard Ripley's space pod) scared the bejeebus out of me.

Edited at 2013-11-16 03:07 pm (UTC)
dodger_sister: girl powerdodger_sister on November 21st, 2013 12:31 am (UTC)
I loved that they had a cat with them. When I saw "Alien" originally in the theater, the ending (with the creature slowly unfolding itself aboard Ripley's space pod) scared the bejeebus out of me.

I loved the cat! It really upped the stress factor for me when watching the movie...'Where was the cat? Did she have the cat? What about the cat?' lol Plus, I liked the idea that they took an animal companion with them onboard. (also, if she hadn't taken her cat, it was like a five year mission, so by the time she got back, her cat would be dead or like really old already, right? So it totally makes sense that she took Jonesy with her).

I can't imagine seeing the movie in the theater back in the day, back before we were all desensitized to that kind of thing. My dad says he and my mom were watching some other movie at the theater and in the screen next to them was Alien and he said you could hear the people screaming through the walls. Definitely the scene in the spacepod was the scariest.
Shireboundshirebound on November 21st, 2013 12:37 am (UTC)
Seeing scary movies 'back in the day' when everything was new and fresh was a wonderfully horror-filled experience. Alien, Halloween, Poltergeist... they broke new ground, and scared the pants off us. And the movies where you had to *imagine* the horror for a greater part of the film (such as Silence of the Lambs and Jaws) were really awesome experiences.
dodger_sister: girl powerdodger_sister on November 21st, 2013 12:57 am (UTC)
Poltergeist scared the crap out of me during a time when I thought I was already desensitized and was even watching it in my own living room, not the theater. But yeah, I am sad in a way that my generation is probably the last that will ever truly be terrified by a movie.

You know what though? I was so used to these modern types of horror films that we have now, that when I was in my late teens/early twenties and I went through this big Hitchcock phase, I found myself truly scared for the first time in years. Like, the tension and stress of watching movies that subscribed to scaring the audience by NOT showing us everything and drawing out the tension and using camera POV to make us think something was around the corner...something extra hardcore in Hitchcock's work that bad horror flick marathons hadn't prepared me for, you know.