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01 September 2011 @ 09:30 pm
Fan-Kids Are Love.  
First, for excellent news about my favorite fangirl in the whole wide world forever - THE BFF GOT A JOB!!! It is a temporary thing, but long term temp, so at least three months. And it is in the exact same building as my sister, so they are driving to work together - yay carpooling! I am sad though that this means we have to slow down on our rewatch of Torchwood.

In other fangirl news - The Little Girl Cousin is well on her way to full-blown fangirl. She is seven now and I babysat her recently. I asked her if she wanted to play Uno. She said yes. I said that after Uno we could watch some “Avatar: The Last Airbender”. This is her current favorite show and she will wax on about how Sokka is her favorite guy in the whole world. She has such a crush. She then decides she wants to watch Airbender first and then play Uno. We watch two episodes. Then she asks for another. I am all, "Don’t you want to play Uno now? Do something else?" - "No, another one!!" - One episode later - "Don’t you want to play Uno now? Do something else?" - "No, another one!!"

For four hours straight. A hardcore fangirl marathon, you guys.

She would say all of Sokka's lines right before he said them. I told her that I really wanted Katara/Zuko to be boyfriend & girlfriend. She said, "No, Mai is Zuko's girlfriend. Katara has to be girlfriend and boyfriend with Aang." I said I liked Aang, but I thought Zuko was a better boyfriend for Katara. "But that's not what happens," she says and then I can see her little mind turning it over, like the possibility that maybe she could hope for something that didn't actually happen on the show. I will make a shipper out of her yet!!

I feel so happy to see her fangirl out over this show. I think back to when I was seven and 100% head-over heels in love with “The A-Team”. I thought about it falling asleep at night, made up my own secret pretend worlds for it, wrote my first fanfic about it in my diary when I didn't even know what fanfic was, had my Murdock baseball hat and bomber jacket, rabidly pounced any helicopter pilots I came into contact with at the hospital and made them listen to me talk about Murdock...

And now, many many years and many fandoms later, I think back on my first full-blown obsession with such fondness and delight, and it makes me unbelievably happy to think that in 25 years, The Little Girl Cousin will be fanning over some show and someone will ask her what her first fandom was and she will say, "Avatar: The Last Airbender. I was seven and madly in love with Sokka."

<3 for fangirls!
 
 
 
Ironlily - Making My Marque: happybubblevikingprincess on September 2nd, 2011 03:12 am (UTC)
I would also ask for another Avatar ep instead of Uno. Ad infinitum.

KataraXZuko 4-EVAH!

I crushed on Faceman. But that was because I had already been crushing on the original Starbuck. :D :D
dodger_sister: the a-teamdodger_sister on September 5th, 2011 02:05 am (UTC)
The ex-daycare worker in me thought I was being bad, not encouraging The Little Girl Cousin to do something besides watch TV - but the fangirl in me was delighted!

I am so in love wtih The Last Airbender right now. I am sad, because I finally finished the third season and now there is no more. I am seriously considering being Toph for Halloween and I am trying to get The Little Girl Cousin to be Katara. I have the short hair but I would have to dye it. She, however, has the perfect hair for Katara!

My big ships in that are Katara/Zuko and Sokka/Toph. In my head, Sokka and Toph go on some grand adventure when she is like 14 and they totally hook up - that's my story and I'm sticking to it. (Idk what to think that my two major ships in that are both het - unless you count MoMo/Appa, which is my favorite ship anyways!)

I was seven when I watched The A-Team. I didn't really crush on anyone. I kind of wanted to be Murdock's girlfriend/neice/cousin/bestest best friend - I didn't understand how those were different. I always wanted Hannibal to be my dad...kind of still do. I rewatched again in 5th/6th grade when they reran them on the weekends and then I totally crushed on Faceman. (I was way too young when the original BSG was on - I crushed on the little kid and his dog). I also, at age 11, was obsessed with telling everyone who would listen how Murdock and Faceman were best friends - only when I was 20 and watching on TVLand during my lunchbreaks, did I realize I had always being shipping them.
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on September 5th, 2011 02:26 am (UTC)
But see, TV like Avatar, that teaches humor and teamwork and tough moral choices and doing the right thing even when you're just sure you're going to die horribly, is character-building. It's good for kids! Honest! (I really do believe this.) Plus, watching in company and talking about the show engages metacognition skills that even lots of college students are not very good at, so I wouldn't sweat it.

Of course, most everything I need to know in life I learned from Robert A. Heinlein, so... I could be seriously biased in favor of fantasy and science fiction shows and literature. I think they're better at character education than most anything else, because the authors can say and do anything they want without being attacked by the PTB and silenced: it's "only" fiction, after all.... (silly mundanes, so ignorant of truth through fiction)

Take my advice, do NOT watch the Avatar: The Last Airbender movie. You will weep and gnash your teeth and plot the death of M. Night Shamalamadingdong. More than that, you'll want to bring him back so you can kill him again. And again.

Sokka/Toph? Hm. I could see that. But I sort of have a soft sopt for Toph/Iroh. I know, I know... but they both love life so darned much, I bet that they'd have AWESOME FUN TIMES.

Ha, ha, you crushed on Boxey! I shouldn't laugh - I was just barely old enough to like Starbuck more. And Apollo was no slouch, either!

Randomness: Apollo, as you may or may not know, was played by Richard Hatch. The winner of the first Survivor was another Richard Hatch. My best friend saw that Richard Hatch was going to be at Dragon*Con a few years back, and got VERY excited to meet the Survivor star. She waited in line for hours... and it was the one from the original BSG. I know she felt cheated, but I bet he felt horrible to be dissed for a big gay manipulative nudist, too!

We have the most interesting conversations, you know that, right?
dodger_sister: the a-teamdodger_sister on September 8th, 2011 01:05 am (UTC)
I actually was really struck with Aang's absolute assurance that he wouldn't be coming back from the final battle and how he squared his shoulders and walked into battle anyways. I found that very refreshing in a children's show. Also, Zuko's journey was an astounding thing to see in this cartoon. The Little Girl Cousin and I talked about this a little too - how he had to decide for himself what was the right thing to do. We also had serious discussions about whether Aang looked better with or without hair (I am all for with, she liked the shaved head. lol)

You are right though, that talking about what we were watching makes it more than just staring at the TV for four hours. I do believe that TV can be an interactive thing you can do with your kids, if you do it together. It's how I became a fan of The Marx Brothers movies - through family movie night.

I think scifi and fantasy are really good ways to get messages across - sometimes better than non-scifi stuff, because everything is metaphorical - the seemingly small things actually represent something bigger, whereas the big life/death things also often reflect something smaller that is happening as well. If you understood what I was saying there.

I have such a crush on Iroh. I am all for older/younger relationships too! (though okay she hasn't hit puberty yet) I don't know if I pair those two, but I could totally write some great Toph & Iroh fic. Their few scenes together (and the one where Toph was talking to Zuko about the things Iroh had to say about him) were some of my absolute favorite scenes in the show.

I like Sokka/Toph because they both have such a wicked sense of humor and yet they work together so perfectly, totally in synch. But I also really love Suki, so...I ended the series with a threesome-flag waving in full view. Can you see some Suki/Toph? It be beautiful.

It's such a shame because I was always a fan of M Night's early stuff - Sixth Sense and Signs - but that Airbender movie looked awful. I have no intention of seeing it.

I loved Boxey! In the reboot miniseries, there is a small bit part of an 11yr old boy named Boxey and when I watched it, I flailed around on the couch while all my friends pointed and laughed. ;)

OMG, your story about Richard Hatch! That is awful! How did your friend stand in line that long and not notice everyone with their BSG stuff to get signed?! Oh, Poor Richard, his heart must have been crushed.

We have the most interesting conversations, you know that, right?

hahaha I know! Half the LJ conversations I end up thinking about later on are from you, baby!
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on September 8th, 2011 11:13 am (UTC)
Zuko's arc is probably my favorite part of the entire series.

Sorry, pretty brain dead this morning. I'll try to do better later. MUCH later - looking at a twelve hours-plus workday today.
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on September 9th, 2011 01:49 am (UTC)
My brain hurts even more than it did this morning. *sigh*

That courage Aang displayed in that moment is true heroism to me, as did Zuko's dive to intercept Azula's lightning strike at Katara in their final confrontation. Both boys really became men through the series, and that had nothing to do with their ages, but everything to do with their choices.

I imagine that part of the reason SF and fantasy work so well to convey the big ideas are because they're so engaging. When your mind is entranced, your heart will open up. Or something like that!

Signs actually disappointed me some. Sixth Sense is my absolute favorite. Even knowing the 'secret' at the end, I still get lost in it.

Myself, I couldn't understand being more excited about the Survivor Hatch than the BSG one. It made no sense to me!
dodger_sister: joaquin phoenixdodger_sister on September 13th, 2011 04:31 am (UTC)
Hope your brain hurts less now, baby.

Both boys really became men through the series, and that had nothing to do with their ages, but everything to do with their choices.

This was perfectly said. When I started watching it, it felt very cartoon to me and the Little Girl Cousin's dad told me to hang in there, that they evolved as they grew up. I didn't expect that to be so true though. Even Sokka, who could be so utterly ridiculous most of the time, had these moments were he seemed more like a man than any adult on the show.

For Zuko, this concept that things are not the way we were told as children, this changing world where we finally see it through our own eyes and not the eyes of our parents - was masterfully done in this series.

See, I loved "Signs". As a fan of apocalypse type movies, I had seen the large alien invasion action movies done a million times. This was the first time I had ever seen it done as this quiet thing, focused on one family, one small aspect of this bigger picture. I liked that. I wasn't looking for a big twist, I just liked the story-telling of it. I am also a huge believer in that every tiny little thing in our lives shapes where we end up, each step in the road - and it did all come full circle at the end.

It probably doesn't hurt that Joaquin Phoenix is my One True Husband forever though. (though I was not so much a fan of The Village, which he was also in).
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on September 14th, 2011 01:57 am (UTC)
ZUKOXKATARA FOREVAH! (just felt the need to say it again, sorry)

I can understand having young hot Joaquin as your OTHF... but I saw him on Letterman this past year, and cringed in horror. WHAT has he done to his brain? Sadness.
dodger_sister: joaquin phoenixdodger_sister on September 15th, 2011 02:07 am (UTC)
SOKKA/TOPH 4EVAH!! <3

WHAT has he done to his brain? Sadness.

See, now we are talking about my One True Husband and I apologize upfront for the babble you are about to endure - but I can totally explain that.

I saw that Letterman appearance too. Everyone was mocking him after that on all the shows and I thought how uncool that was of them, as he had clearly had some kind of breakdown.

But then...I heard he was making a mockumentary with Casey Affleck, so I looked around and came to the conclusion that this was part of that, some sort of prank or something. One year later the movie came out and yep, it was. I don't think David Letterman had any idea.

Wikipedia says -I'm Still Here is a 2010 mockumentary film directed by Casey Affleck, and written by Affleck and Joaquin Phoenix. The film purports to follow the life of Phoenix, from the announcement of his retirement from acting, through his transition into a career as a hip hop artist. Filming officially began on January 16, 2009 at a Las Vegas nightclub. Throughout the filming period, Phoenix remained in character for public appearances, giving many the impression that he was genuinely pursuing a new career..

I've still yet to see this movie though. Why, when I could just watch Signs again? ;)
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on September 15th, 2011 11:28 am (UTC)
Wow. I had NO idea, so thank you for enlightening me! Now I think I need to watch that mockumentary! :)
dodger_sister: joaquin phoenixdodger_sister on September 16th, 2011 02:50 am (UTC)
I'm not sure if I should be proud that I knew this or embarrassed, but I'm glad to have enlightened you. 8)
Ironlily - Making My Marquevikingprincess on September 16th, 2011 11:16 am (UTC)
"Knowledge is never a waste."

Anafiel Delauney and Phedre no Delauney, Kushiel's Dart, by Jacqueline Carey

:)
hiyacynthhiyacynth on September 2nd, 2011 02:31 pm (UTC)
You will be happy to know that I often sing the theme to the A-Team during diaper changes:

"Diaper change! Diaper change. That's right a diaper change! Oh, a diaper change! Da da da da diaper change! Diaper diaper change." etc.

Yeah. I need to get out more.
dodger_sister: the a-teamdodger_sister on September 5th, 2011 02:07 am (UTC)
I was like, "But The A-Team theme doesn't have words," and then I sang your song to the tune of The A-Team theme and started laughing so hard. It totally fits!

This is good - you should get him started early on the important things in life. I approve!
wolfrider89: D/C hugwolfrider89 on September 2nd, 2011 06:03 pm (UTC)
Aw, a fangirl in the making! That's awesome! :D
dodger_sister: chicksdodger_sister on September 5th, 2011 02:09 am (UTC)
She really is. But prior to this, she has always fanned over the things her mother fangirls over - SPN, HP, etc. This her first fangirl moment all her own - it makes me so happy! <3 <3
ranua: gifted from denig37ranua on September 3rd, 2011 03:58 pm (UTC)
You are so the coolest Auntie ever. :D (also, you win big props from me, I couldn't watch 4 hrs of Avatar The Last Airbender)

And you made her think outside the established parameters! Go you!
dodger_sister: girl powerdodger_sister on September 5th, 2011 02:13 am (UTC)
I am, aren't I? 8) I actually quite love The Last Airbender. I don't feel the need to run out and write fic for or anything (okay, maybe a little) but I really got into it. I have some couples I ship and oddly find myself attracted to the bad guy - I know, I know, he is a cartoon! It actually seems like it would be right up your alley. I'm surprised you don't like it.

I see more potential for various threesomes on this show than any other - but I didn't think it was quite time to push The Little Girl Cousin that far outside of the parameters - still if she goes home and starts thinking about things that could have happened on the show that didn't, maybe she'll be ready to write her first fanfic!
ranuaranua on September 6th, 2011 12:11 pm (UTC)
I never saw a promo or anything that made The Last Airbender jump out at me as something I should see. I think the last cartoon (that wasn't a Batman show) that I really got into was Pokemon. Team Rocket was my favorite. :D

lol, yeah, maybe threesomes are a bit out there yet. But getting her to think about what else could happen in the show is good. One of those life lessons that sneak up on you while you think you're having fun sort of things.
dodger_sister: girl powerdodger_sister on September 21st, 2011 01:51 am (UTC)
Did you not ever watch Teen Titans? That also surprises me.

I think you would like Airbender. It is a children's cartoon and in the first season it is especially evident that it is for 11yr olds - but as the kids literally age up, so does the maturity level of the show. They tackle great concepts in it - destiny isn't also what you think it is, seeing the world through your eyes and not the eyes of your parents, rising above what is expected of you, and my personal favorite "the family we make".

Plus the animation, especially the fight scenes, is amazing. And the humor is very sarcastic, which I enjoy.

I think next time The Little Girl Cousin comes over, I will see if she wants to write a story about The Last Airbender. Someday she can post it on her own LJ. ;)
ranuaranua on September 21st, 2011 10:51 am (UTC)
I did watch Teen Titans Go! but not religiously. As The Boy got older our tv watching changed away from American cartoons and on to Japanese ones and live action tv.

So Airbender is worth stopping on when I'm channel surfing then? You make it sound good anyway.

I think next time The Little Girl Cousin comes over, I will see if she wants to write a story about The Last Airbender. Someday she can post it on her own LJ. ;) Oh! You are the awesome Auntie!